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Having heard no complaints about the idea of at least doing the first
meeting here, can I assume that's acceptable?

-- 
Chris Tooley
512-646-1507
ctooley@gnumber.com

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Where is the office and when do you plan to meet?
Les

On 10/12/05, Chris Tooley <chris@tooley.com> wrote:
>
> Having heard no complaints about the idea of at least doing the first
> meeting here, can I assume that's acceptable?
>
> --
> Chris Tooley
> 512-646-1507
> ctooley@gnumber.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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Where is the office and when do you plan to meet?<br>
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On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 07:53 -0500, Les Elliott wrote:
> Where is the office

3925 W Braker Ln (The MCC Building at MoPac and Braker)

> and when do you plan to meet?

That was the next order of business, when can everyone get away to have
our first gathering.

> Les
> 
> On 10/12/05, Chris Tooley <chris@tooley.com> wrote:
>         Having heard no complaints about the idea of at least doing
>         the first
>         meeting here, can I assume that's acceptable?
>         
>         --
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>         ctooley@gnumber.com 
>         
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>         Austin-Asterisk-Users-Group@bybent.com
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> 

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> That was the next order of business, when can everyone get away to have
> our first gathering.

How is Monday the 17th for everyone?  Third Monday of the month
schedule?

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Does anyone know if my "NEW LIST CREATED" message made it out on ALG?
If not, would someone on the ALG list (and the GWLUG list) forward the
message?

I got the "moderator has your message" type message, but nothing saying
whether or not it went.

-- 

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First real posting!

While another member offered his office space (a little larger than
ours) for meetings, Chris Tooley is by far the most knowlegable Asterisk
person I know of in town.  He and I work together and we have multiple
existing Asterisk setups in our office along with analog and digital
phones.   That makes for an easier "get things going" setup for the
first few meetings I think.  At any meeting if we find our facilities
too small or lacking, we can move the next meeting to the other
location.

Wayne

On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 07:30:33AM -0500, Chris Tooley wrote:
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> 
> -- 
> Chris Tooley
> 512-646-1507
> ctooley@gnumber.com
> 
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> Austin-Asterisk-Users-Group@bybent.com
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-- 

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On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 07:53 -0500, Les Elliott wrote:
> Where is the office

3925 W Braker Ln (The MCC Building at MoPac and Braker)

> and when do you plan to meet?

That was the next order of business, when can everyone get away to have
our first gathering.

> Les
> 
> On 10/12/05, Chris Tooley <chris@tooley.com> wrote:
>         Having heard no complaints about the idea of at least doing
>         the first
>         meeting here, can I assume that's acceptable?
>         
>         --
>         Chris Tooley
>         512-646-1507
>         ctooley@gnumber.com 
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         Austin-Asterisk-Users-Group mailing list
>         Austin-Asterisk-Users-Group@bybent.com
>         http://buzzard.onr.com/mailman/listinfo/austin-asterisk-users-group
> 

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Works for me.  What time?

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> > That was the next order of business, when can everyone get away to have
> > our first gathering.
> 
> How is Monday the 17th for everyone?  Third Monday of the month
> schedule?
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I think that sounds good. Unless someone else has a comparable setup 
(which I don't know of anyone).

Maybe we could even get the O'Reilly Asterisk book writer to come 
sometime.

David

On Oct 12, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Wayne Walker wrote:

> First real posting!
>
> While another member offered his office space (a little larger than
> ours) for meetings, Chris Tooley is by far the most knowlegable 
> Asterisk
> person I know of in town.  He and I work together and we have multiple
> existing Asterisk setups in our office along with analog and digital
> phones.   That makes for an easier "get things going" setup for the
> first few meetings I think.  At any meeting if we find our facilities
> too small or lacking, we can move the next meeting to the other
> location.
>
> Wayne
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 07:30:33AM -0500, Chris Tooley wrote:
>> Having heard no complaints about the idea of at least doing the first
>> meeting here, can I assume that's acceptable?
>>
>> -- 
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That sounds good to me.

Thanks for offering the knowhow and the list
initiative!

How much of a server can asterisk run on?
For a minimal small bus. 3 phone
setup, could one of Dzuy's costlinux servers
based on either old netier boxes, or new generic fanless
mini-ITX motherboards in generic small boxes do the
serving to some IP phones with a processor clock speed of 200-300MHz?

John Griessen

On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 08:30 -0500, Chris Tooley wrote:
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>
> How is Monday the 17th for everyone?  Third Monday of the month
> schedule?
>
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Is everyone OK with Austin Asterisk Users Group?  I don't live in
Austin, but it's shorter than Central Texas or Capitol Area or whatever.  

We can change it later.  Say at Monday's meeting...

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On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 11:46:42AM -0500, John Griessen wrote:
> That sounds good to me.
> 
> Thanks for offering the knowhow and the list
> initiative!
> 
> How much of a server can asterisk run on?
A LinkSys WRT54G wireless router (70 USD) can run asterisk, and handles
about 5 simultaneous calls!  Any reasonable number of extensions, but
only 4 to 7 simulataneous calls I think.

So the slowest desktop computer you have will handle more than you need.

> For a minimal small bus. 3 phone
> setup, could one of Dzuy's costlinux servers
> based on either old netier boxes, or new generic fanless
> mini-ITX motherboards in generic small boxes do the
> serving to some IP phones with a processor clock speed of 200-300MHz?
Yes.

> 
> John Griessen
> 
> On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 08:30 -0500, Chris Tooley wrote:
> > > That was the next order of business, when can everyone get away to have
> > > our first gathering.
> >
> > How is Monday the 17th for everyone?  Third Monday of the month
> > schedule?
> >
> _______________________________________________
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I was looking at the membership list and I think George and Taylor may
not be receiving any messages to the list.  

Taylor, George, please reply to me if you get this.


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So, the plan is currently to have the meeting at Wayne Walker and Chris
Tooley's office at the MCC Building.  The address is 3925 W Braker Lane
in Austin.  When you arrive the side of the building that faces Braker
is the back of the building (which is the correct side).  When
approaching the door at the back of the building there will be a grey
box containing a phone.  If you pick up the phone and dial 96461507
you'll be connected to my office and I will come get you.  The building
is "secured" so someone will have to come get everyone (which shouldn't
be that bad).

For timing we're thinking 6:30PM.

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I received it...
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> From: Wayne Walker <wwalker@bybent.com>
> Reply-To: Wayne Walker <wwalker@bybent.com>
> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:17:28 -0500
> To: Austin Asterisk Users Group <austin-asterisk-users-group@bybent.com>
> Subject: [A*UG] checking
> 
> I was looking at the membership list and I think George and Taylor may
> not be receiving any messages to the list.
> 
> Taylor, George, please reply to me if you get this.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Wayne Walker
> 
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Is there more than one driveway?  Is the drive to the back
side marked some way?

I remember ending up at the "front side"
by default pretty easily when I have been there...

John G

Chris Tooley wrote:
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> is the back of the building (which is the correct side).  When
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When and where?  I missed the first part of this thread.

On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 23:52 -0500, John Griessen wrote:
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> 
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> John G
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What's the date and time on this?  I missed the 1st part of the thread.

Thus spake John Griessen on Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 11:52:19PM CDT
> Is there more than one driveway?  Is the drive to the back
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> 
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> John G
> 
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If you take the driveway from Braker Lane (the driveway is on the south
side of Braker closest to MoPac) and then take the very first left (it
looks like you're turning into the loading docks), you will be at the
back entrance.

Lindsay:

Monday October 17th at 6:30 PM

On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 23:52 -0500, John Griessen wrote:
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> side marked some way?
> 
> I remember ending up at the "front side"
> by default pretty easily when I have been there...
> 
> John G
> 
> Chris Tooley wrote:
> When you arrive the side of the building that faces Braker
> > is the back of the building (which is the correct side).  When
> > approaching the door at the back of the building there will be a grey
> > box containing a phone.  
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Monday, October 17th,
at 6:30 PM
at the gNumber office
in the MCC building
at the southwest corner of MoPac and Braker.

The "back" is the North side.  If you can't look across the street and
see Burger King, you are not on the back/north side.

And the parking lot is a twisty little maze.  Good luck :)  But it's a
mostly open maze and Burger King is your signpost.

Wayne


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> side marked some way?
> 
> I remember ending up at the "front side"
> by default pretty easily when I have been there...
> 
> John G
> 
> Chris Tooley wrote:
> When you arrive the side of the building that faces Braker
> > is the back of the building (which is the correct side).  When
> > approaching the door at the back of the building there will be a grey
> > box containing a phone.  
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For 2 people who work across the hall from each other, we duplicate a
lot of each other's work. :)  You'd think we'd be better at coordinating
things.

On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 09:17 -0500, Wayne Walker wrote:
> Monday, October 17th,
> at 6:30 PM
> at the gNumber office
> in the MCC building
> at the southwest corner of MoPac and Braker.
> 
> The "back" is the North side.  If you can't look across the street and
> see Burger King, you are not on the back/north side.
> 
> And the parking lot is a twisty little maze.  Good luck :)  But it's a
> mostly open maze and Burger King is your signpost.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 11:52:19PM -0500, John Griessen wrote:
> > Is there more than one driveway?  Is the drive to the back
> > side marked some way?
> > 
> > I remember ending up at the "front side"
> > by default pretty easily when I have been there...
> > 
> > John G
> > 
> > Chris Tooley wrote:
> > When you arrive the side of the building that faces Braker
> > > is the back of the building (which is the correct side).  When
> > > approaching the door at the back of the building there will be a grey
> > > box containing a phone.  
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://buzzard.onr.com/mailman/listinfo/austin-asterisk-users-group
> 
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Maybe your binary:)

On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 09:22 -0500, Chris Tooley wrote:
> For 2 people who work across the hall from each other, we duplicate a
> lot of each other's work. :)  You'd think we'd be better at coordinating
> things.
> 
> On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 09:17 -0500, Wayne Walker wrote:
> > Monday, October 17th,
> > at 6:30 PM
> > at the gNumber office
> > in the MCC building
> > at the southwest corner of MoPac and Braker.
> > 
> > The "back" is the North side.  If you can't look across the street and
> > see Burger King, you are not on the back/north side.
> > 
> > And the parking lot is a twisty little maze.  Good luck :)  But it's a
> > mostly open maze and Burger King is your signpost.
> > 
> > Wayne
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 11:52:19PM -0500, John Griessen wrote:
> > > Is there more than one driveway?  Is the drive to the back
> > > side marked some way?
> > > 
> > > I remember ending up at the "front side"
> > > by default pretty easily when I have been there...
> > > 
> > > John G
> > > 
> > > Chris Tooley wrote:
> > > When you arrive the side of the building that faces Braker
> > > > is the back of the building (which is the correct side).  When
> > > > approaching the door at the back of the building there will be a grey
> > > > box containing a phone.  
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All this Asterisk talk has piqued my interest!

At my home/business, I have a needed for two or more intercom stations. 
The station sites are ~2000' apart, but are on my LAN.  I used to use 
some unusual telephones that gave intercom service when two telephone 
lines were attached.  At one time, I had 6 or 8 of those telephones; 
they have all died and seem to be not replaceable.  Especially if I can 
get voip working on my satellite (net2dish/dirceway) broadband, I would 
like to drop one of my phone lines.  Or both.  Alas, my experiments 
with Skype indicate that the latency is insufferable.

So, here are my questions:
1) Can Asterisk give me intercom service over my LAN.  I'm almost sure 
the answer to that is "yes"; if so, what hardware do I need?
2) I assume I can use regular ole telephone handsets for the intercom?
3) Once I have the intercom service setup, is it trivial to then use 
the intercom stations to access my telephone line?

It seems attractive to find preconfigured and tested boxes to provide 
the above capabilities.  Comments?  Recommendations?

Muchas gracias!

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On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 09:14:49AM -0500, Chris Tooley wrote:
> If you take the driveway from Braker Lane (the driveway is on the south
> side of Braker closest to MoPac) and then take the very first left (it
> looks like you're turning into the loading docks), you will be at the
> back entrance.
When you take the left he mentions above, you need to take the next left
also (about 20 feet), that's a curving road and you can turn right into
either of the two back parking lots.

Wayne

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It was a pleasure meeting all of you at the first meeting of the A*UG 
last night.  Newbies like me got a great overview and a lot of useful 
information.  My wife thanked you for providing answers to her SNOT list 
questions.

I have downloaded Asterisk@Home and will be playing with it in a day or 
so to start getting practical experience.  First I'll dip my toes into a 
simple PBX with just a few POTS stations in the house, then mix in a 
little VOIP.

Also ordered the O'Reilly book.

After a while perhaps I'll be ready to start thinking about an overall 
design. This will be much easier with local contacts to ease the way 
over the expected hard spots.

It's also nice being a charter member of something.

Larry 301-1414

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Right on!
Les

On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 16:36 -0500, Larry Alkoff wrote:
> It was a pleasure meeting all of you at the first meeting of the A*UG 
> last night.  Newbies like me got a great overview and a lot of useful 
> information.  My wife thanked you for providing answers to her SNOT list 
> questions.
> 
> I have downloaded Asterisk@Home and will be playing with it in a day or 
> so to start getting practical experience.  First I'll dip my toes into a 
> simple PBX with just a few POTS stations in the house, then mix in a 
> little VOIP.
> 
> Also ordered the O'Reilly book.
> 
> After a while perhaps I'll be ready to start thinking about an overall 
> design. This will be much easier with local contacts to ease the way 
> over the expected hard spots.
> 
> It's also nice being a charter member of something.
> 
> Larry 301-1414
> 

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Hello everybody,

 I realize there was a meeting that was held recently.

How appropriate is it for me to attend these meetings if I don't really 
know anyone personally on the CTLUG or A*UG? Also I am not a Linux guru 
by any measure, but I love to learn and have made a lot of progress!

I have the Asterisk PBX beta running on my FC4 box and am actually 
learning it quite quickly. After all there is only about 30 config 
files.  It is working though and I plan to purchase an IP phone sometime 
in the future to use with it. Anyone have any suggestion for a good geek 
ip phone?

Maybe I will meet some of you guru's in the future.

Michael Kojetin

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  Sounds awesome.  I work just down the road (Kramer/Metric) but was 
unable to
make it to that particular meeting.  Can anyone shoot a summary of what 
went down?

TIA,
-steve

Larry Alkoff wrote:

> It was a pleasure meeting all of you at the first meeting of the A*UG 
> last night.  Newbies like me got a great overview and a lot of useful 
> information.  My wife thanked you for providing answers to her SNOT 
> list questions.
>
> I have downloaded Asterisk@Home and will be playing with it in a day 
> or so to start getting practical experience.  First I'll dip my toes 
> into a simple PBX with just a few POTS stations in the house, then mix 
> in a little VOIP.
>
> Also ordered the O'Reilly book.
>
> After a while perhaps I'll be ready to start thinking about an overall 
> design. This will be much easier with local contacts to ease the way 
> over the expected hard spots.
>
> It's also nice being a charter member of something.
>
> Larry 301-1414
>

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 08:05:21PM -0500, Michael Kojetin wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I realize there was a meeting that was held recently.
> 
> How appropriate is it for me to attend these meetings if I don't really 
> know anyone personally on the CTLUG or A*UG? Also I am not a Linux guru 
> by any measure, but I love to learn and have made a lot of progress!
None of us knew each other when we first showed up.  Come on down!!

> I have the Asterisk PBX beta running on my FC4 box and am actually 
> learning it quite quickly. After all there is only about 30 config 
> files.  It is working though and I plan to purchase an IP phone sometime 
> in the future to use with it. Anyone have any suggestion for a good geek 
> ip phone?
> 
> Maybe I will meet some of you guru's in the future.
Hope to see you soon!  Though I'm no guru.
> 
> Michael Kojetin
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On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 10:59:39AM -0500, Willie McKemie wrote:
> All this Asterisk talk has piqued my interest!
> 
> At my home/business, I have a needed for two or more intercom stations. 
> The station sites are ~2000' apart, but are on my LAN.  I used to use 
> some unusual telephones that gave intercom service when two telephone 
> lines were attached.  At one time, I had 6 or 8 of those telephones; 
> they have all died and seem to be not replaceable.  Especially if I can 
> get voip working on my satellite (net2dish/dirceway) broadband, I would 
> like to drop one of my phone lines.  Or both.  Alas, my experiments 
> with Skype indicate that the latency is insufferable.
> 
> So, here are my questions:
> 1) Can Asterisk give me intercom service over my LAN.  I'm almost sure 
> the answer to that is "yes"; if so, what hardware do I need?
Intercom?  not exactly.  Phones, yes. You would need either a VoIP phone
($60 to $200 each) or an ATA (ethernet plug on one side and an RJ-11
phone jack on the other side) ($80-$200 each) at each location.

If you have two buildings and just need service between them, you could
have one ATA at each building and put as many phones as you like.

Too bad you missed the meeting, there are so many forks in the
conversation based on your answers, it's hard to handle via email.

> 2) I assume I can use regular ole telephone handsets for the intercom?
With an ATA yes.  With an asterisk server with an FXS card in it, yes.

> 3) Once I have the intercom service setup, is it trivial to then use 
> the intercom stations to access my telephone line?
Yes, but...

What you would really do is just what a normal business does.  You have
one or more lines coming in from your phone provider (whether it's SBC,
GTE, or a VoIP provider).  These connect into your Asterisk server.
Then your asterisk server acts as a PBX.  You then have "extensions"
each extensions is either an ATA (Analog Telephone Adapter), an FXS port,
or a VoIP phone.  An ATA officially drives one phone line, but usually
works fine with say up to 5.  Same with an FXS port.  ATA's and FXS
ports run ~$80-150 each.

> It seems attractive to find preconfigured and tested boxes to provide 
> the above capabilities.  Comments?  Recommendations?
I've heard some good about "asterisk@home" which is an installer that
will WIPE your hard drive, install linux, and asterisk, and configure
asterisk somewhat.

I'd recommend running RHEL4, CentOS4, or FC4 on a machine and installing
Asterisk manually.

Make the next meeting and we can sort things out with you.

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Thus spake Wayne Walker on Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 09:58:24PM CDT
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 10:59:39AM -0500, Willie McKemie wrote:
> > All this Asterisk talk has piqued my interest!
> > 
> > At my home/business, I have a needed for two or more intercom stations. 
> > The station sites are ~2000' apart, but are on my LAN.  I used to use 
> > some unusual telephones that gave intercom service when two telephone 
> > lines were attached.  At one time, I had 6 or 8 of those telephones; 
> > they have all died and seem to be not replaceable.  Especially if I can 
> > get voip working on my satellite (net2dish/dirceway) broadband, I would 
> > like to drop one of my phone lines.  Or both.  Alas, my experiments 
> > with Skype indicate that the latency is insufferable.
> > 
> > So, here are my questions:
> > 1) Can Asterisk give me intercom service over my LAN.  I'm almost sure 
> > the answer to that is "yes"; if so, what hardware do I need?
> Intercom?  not exactly.  Phones, yes. You would need either a VoIP phone
> ($60 to $200 each) or an ATA (ethernet plug on one side and an RJ-11
> phone jack on the other side) ($80-$200 each) at each location.

When you think of Asterisk, think of PBX - like a traditional POTS
telephone PBX, but completely programmable.  Depending on how much you want
to invest in hardware, you can feed as many POTS lines to the world (FXS) or
phones (FXO) as you can afford the hardware to support.  You can also access
VoIP services on the Internet from Asterisk-friendly VoIP providers, kind of
like a "digital FXS" line - sort of.  I don't expect that Asterisk would be
necessary for digital intercom over a LAN.  This sounds more like the domain
of some other VoIP software, kind of like audio IM.

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Thanks for responding!

On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 09:58:24PM -0500, Wayne Walker wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 10:59:39AM -0500, Willie McKemie wrote:
> > All this Asterisk talk has piqued my interest!
> 
> > 3) Once I have the intercom service setup, is it trivial to then use 
> > the intercom stations to access my telephone line?
> Yes, but...
> 
> What you would really do is just what a normal business does.  You have
> one or more lines coming in from your phone provider (whether it's SBC,
> GTE, or a VoIP provider).  These connect into your Asterisk server.
> Then your asterisk server acts as a PBX.  You then have "extensions"
> each extensions is either an ATA (Analog Telephone Adapter), an FXS port,
> or a VoIP phone.  An ATA officially drives one phone line, but usually
> works fine with say up to 5.  Same with an FXS port.  ATA's and FXS
> ports run ~$80-150 each.

I'm now developing a little bit better mental model of how this stuff 
works.  I've ordered a couple of IP telephones and a couple of clone 
cards for Asterisk.  Tuesday, I looked at Frys for IP telephones, I 
found some ATAs, but no telephones.
> 
> > It seems attractive to find preconfigured and tested boxes to provide 
> > the above capabilities.  Comments?  Recommendations?
> I've heard some good about "asterisk@home" which is an installer that
> will WIPE your hard drive, install linux, and asterisk, and configure
> asterisk somewhat.
> 
> I'd recommend running RHEL4, CentOS4, or FC4 on a machine and installing
> Asterisk manually.

I have a bunch of Debian boxes and I notice that asterisk is in the 
Debian repositories; I'll start there since I have no RH boxes.  If 
that doesn't go well, I might try asterisk@home on a disposable box.
> 
> Make the next meeting and we can sort things out with you.

I live a ways out and very rarely go to town in the evenings. 

BTW, I subscribed to the digest list as either 
"sprinter@austinfarm.org" or maybe "mckemie@austinfarm.org".  I 
received one digest about a week ago, but none since.  Don't know 
whether the list is inactive or my subscription is screwed up.

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Sorry I missed the first meeting.  I wanted to come but I live kinda far out
of town.  I may be able to make the next one.

Suggestion:  Lenny Tropino and Brian Sinclair have given a couple of really
dynamite hands-on presentations on VoIP at CACTUS meetings.  They run
VoIPing (http://www.voiping.com) and have lots of experience with this
stuff.  I'm sure they'd be more than willing to come and talk to the A*UG
folken and do the same thing.  I know them and if you wish, I'll make the
contact and inquire.

You can run through the formal parts of their presentation at
<http://www.voiping.com/cactus/>.

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Lenny, Brian,

If you don't know already, a bunch of folks have formed the Austin Asterisk
User's Group.  A lot of these people are also in the Central Texas Linux
Users Group, whose website and mailing list I host.  They had their very
first meeting last Monday.  I wasn't there, but I'm on the A*UG mailing
list, and suggested that perhaps A*UG could get y'all to come and do
something similar to what you did for CACTUS some time ago.  Don't know how
many people are involved, but they're very enthusiastic.  I ain't in charge
of programs for the group, and this is only a suggestion to them, but I
thought I'd see if I could facilitate this if you were willing and A*UG were
interested.

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Lindsay Haisley wrote:

>Sorry I missed the first meeting.  I wanted to come but I live kinda far out
>of town.  I may be able to make the next one.
>
>Suggestion:  Lenny Tropino and Brian Sinclair have given a couple of really
>dynamite hands-on presentations on VoIP at CACTUS meetings.  They run
>VoIPing (http://www.voiping.com) and have lots of experience with this
>stuff.  I'm sure they'd be more than willing to come and talk to the A*UG
>folken and do the same thing.  I know them and if you wish, I'll make the
>contact and inquire.
>
>You can run through the formal parts of their presentation at
><http://www.voiping.com/cactus/>.
>
>  
>
I would be most enthusiastic to hear their presentation. I hope it works 
out.

Michael
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Folks,

Hello!  Found out Austin has a newly formed Asterisk User Group.  Let
me introduce myself (Lindsey already did, sorta).  I've personally been
using/playing with Asterisk for about 3+ years (yea, early days of
the code).  When VoIPing was fully engaged (we're only taking select
clients now) we had several VoIP customers in town.  We did a larger
install/customization at a local company (60+ phones) and when I worked
at another startup, I replaced their TDM PBX (that was undersized) with
a complete Asterisk PBX.  

Although I don't have a lot of recent time to be playing with Asterisk,
I keep current on the comings and goings of the project.  A good friend
of mine, Gil Kloepfer, is also extremely versed with Asterisk and
has done several presentations at CACTUS.  Gil got interested in Asterisk
through my interactions and has recently taken it to the "n-th degree" at
his current employer.  Gil is an active bug-tracker/submitter and has
made FreeBSD compatibility even more successful.

Last year, at the first annual Astricon, I was a speaker and it had
a very large turnout.  The 2nd annual (USA) Astricon just recently 
happened, but I was unable to attend.

Presentations from that event are available at:
	http://www.astricon.net/conf2004/program.shtml
Specifically mine was:
	http://www.astricon.net/conf2004/docs/3-lenny-tropiano.pdf
Photos from that event are available at: 
	http://photos.tropiano.org/gallery/astricon-2004

Gil, Brian and myself have Asterisk Installations at home using
Cisco, Polycom, SoftPhones, Sipuras, and IAX/SIP providers.

I'd be happy to do a presentation at an upcoming A*UG ... 

Thanks for starting this group, I'll be e-mailing some of my cohorts
and letting them know about it, as well.

Talk to everyone soon,
Lenny

-- 
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Partner, Networking Specialist          Pager:  pager-lenny@voiping.com
VoIPing, LLC                            URL:    http://www.voiping.com/
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> I'd be happy to do a presentation at an upcoming A*UG ... 
> 
Definitely come to a meeting, and join in the discussion.  We haven't
really set a formal format for the meetings but discussion, assistance
and information dissemination is a more likely format for a while than
formal presentations.  We're mostly non-telephony people just getting
into Asterisk, with a couple of people who make a living doing it.

> Thanks for starting this group, I'll be e-mailing some of my cohorts
> and letting them know about it, as well.
> 
We'd be happy to see them.

> Talk to everyone soon,
> Lenny
> 
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We're currently doing intra-office paging via Meetme conferences and the
auto-answer feature available in Polycom phones.  You dial a paging
extension, say something into it, hang up, and it broadcasts the message to
all the phones.  Works great so far.

We have a prospect who also needs overhead paging via their existing paging
speakers.  Does anybody have any experience with such systems or
recommendations on how to integrate Asterisk with overhead speakers?

Thanks,
Carey

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If the current overhead speakers are used via a telephony interface and
FXO or FXS channel should give you what you need (it's unlikely that
it's a digital channel).  If it's an audio input, like speaker jacks,
you can use a sound card and OSS/ALSA as a channel as well.

Once you've got the channel, you can use it just like you do the Meetme.
But more likely you'll want to dial the number, have that
context/extension open an OSS/ALSA channel and have them start talking.
Otherwise if you need record and them playback I can show you some
examples of how I did that for recording prompts that seems to work.

On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 08:21 -0500, Carey Jung wrote:
> We're currently doing intra-office paging via Meetme conferences and the
> auto-answer feature available in Polycom phones.  You dial a paging
> extension, say something into it, hang up, and it broadcasts the message to
> all the phones.  Works great so far.
> 
> We have a prospect who also needs overhead paging via their existing paging
> speakers.  Does anybody have any experience with such systems or
> recommendations on how to integrate Asterisk with overhead speakers?
> 
> Thanks,
> Carey
> 
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I've been struggling with Asterisk since sometime last week.  Trying  
to use it as a PBX for our new office.  I just can't believe my  
luck.  Here it is Thursday and the first meeting of A*UG was three  
days ago. Doh!  I'll be there next month unless I've succumbed to the  
temptation of calling some vendor of an overpriced commercial solution.

If anyone is interested: we are running Asterisk on an AMD based  
eMachines box - AMD Athlon 2400+.   I have a Digium TDM02B (TDM400P +  
2 PORT FXO).  We have two Grandstream BudgeTone telephones.  It is  
all sort of working.  But receivers of calls over the PSTN complain  
that we sound muffled and that the volume is a bit low.  Inside the  
office, i.e., calls that never leaves our intranet, sound OK.  Thus,  
I am suspecting that it is the FXO interface that is not tweaked  
right.  We previously had some cheaper cards that we bought from  
Digitnetworks.  For those I tweaked RXGAIN and TXGAIN in zapata.conf.  
That did not seem to work.  I have now reset zapata.conf to the  
original values:

;
; Zapata telephony interface
;
; Configuration file

[trunkgroups]

[channels]

language=en
context=from-pstn
signalling=fxs_ks
rxwink=300        ; Atlas seems to use long (250ms) winks
;
; Whether or not to do distinctive ring detection on FXO lines
;
;usedistinctiveringdetection=yes

usecallerid=yes
hidecallerid=no
callwaiting=yes
usecallingpres=yes
callwaitingcallerid=yes
threewaycalling=yes
transfer=yes
cancallforward=yes
callreturn=yes
echocancel=yes
echocancelwhenbridged=no
echotraining=800
rxgain=0.0
txgain=0.0
group=0
callgroup=1
pickupgroup=1
immediate=no

;faxdetect=both
faxdetect=incoming
;faxdetect=outgoing
;faxdetect=no

;Include genzaptelconf configs
#include zapata-auto.conf

;Include AMP configs
#include zapata_additional.conf

If anyone has suggestions on what to try, I am all ears.

Pehr

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Digium has great support for their cards.  If you call them, they will
resolve these issues for even ssh'ing to the machine and connecting to a
shared screen session so that you can see what they're doing.

On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 18:58 -0500, Pehr Jansson wrote:
> 
> I've been struggling with Asterisk since sometime last week.  Trying  
> to use it as a PBX for our new office.  I just can't believe my  
> luck.  Here it is Thursday and the first meeting of A*UG was three  
> days ago. Doh!  I'll be there next month unless I've succumbed to
> the  
> temptation of calling some vendor of an overpriced commercial
> solution.
> 
> If anyone is interested: we are running Asterisk on an AMD based  
> eMachines box - AMD Athlon
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I figured I would update all as to how my progress with * is coming 
along at home.

Last week I downloaded the 1.2 beta, compiled and installed it with no 
problems. I also read as much documentation and case studies as possible 
which really helped me in understanding how the program works. After 
about 3 or so hours of fiddling around with I went from completely 
ignorant about Asterisk to making successful SIP and IAX calls from 
computer to computer 1x1pbx.

Like David McNett said on his website, there is only so much you can do 
with the desktop to laptop calling so I signed up for Voicepulse and now 
got that working. My first call had horrible quality so I took David's 
advice and switched the outgoing Voicepulse servers around so it uses 
the backup server as the primary. After I switched the servers around, I 
called my family in Montana and was experiencing perfect call quality 
for the two hours we talked using the IAX Firefly soft phone. 

Next up on the list of things to do is purchase an actual IP phone. Not 
exactly sure what I want to go with. I don't really have much use for 
the Cisco 7960 though it is extremely cool and does have a lot of 
features. I am leaning toward something like a wifi ip phone. Anyone 
have experience with these?  On David's website he had a horrible 
experience with the ZyXEL model. I surly don't want to repeat that but 
have heard the new firmware does a lot to fix the previous problems. 
I'll search around for a different model.

Now all I have to do is to make my dialplan be useful....


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Hello all,

Thought I would share this bit of info. I'm not sure if anyone else 
knows about it or not but I guess the O'Reilly Asterisk book is freely 
available online. I am reading it now and its a good intro...

 http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11

I guess O'Reilly Media agreed to it...


Michael


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